Mudspike 4th Annual DCS Fall Fly-In

Well now! Another year has passed and it seems like it is time for another Mudspike DCS Fall Fly-In. Again, although we may be stretching the definition of Fall, the 4th Annual DCS Fall Fly-In will occur on the weekend of December 1st to the 2nd, 2018.

DCS has seen a number of major improvements since last years Fly-In! This year we will be running the DCS World 2.5 Release Branch* with various sandbox-style multiplayer missions. Server connection details will be posted the week before the event.

*Note: In the unlikely event that the Heatblur F-14 is released that week, there is a chance that we will be running the DCS World 2.5 Open Beta Branch to accommodate. This could be a last moment decision and we hope that we can still accommodate as many people as possible. We strongly recommend that you check out Skatezilla’s DCS Launcher which allows you to switch quickly between Open Beta and Release Branch builds.

Friday evening (30th of November 2018) we will have a server up to test connect-ability for clients and allow everyone to lurch around those virtual skies in as friendly a manner as we can muster. It will be an opportunity to check out the Mudspike Teamspeak3 server and see if you have anything that needs sorting out. We are confident that anyone on our Teamspeak3 server will be willing to offer help to anyone who asks.

Saturday and Sunday (1st and 2nd of December 2018) will be the ‘main event’. Now we want to caution that we do not have a lot of things planned. There will be at least one server available with a sandbox mission on the default DC World Georgia map (more information below).

Additional Information

According to SOP [… let’s just check out notes … hmm, yes, there it is …] we will have an AAR (After Action Reports) thread up where you can record your screenshots, videos and AARs during the Fly-In. There is a good chance that we may be giving away a mysterious DCS Module Key as donated by members of this outstanding community. If we can get the logistics of that squared away, we will announce the details in a separate thread before the start of the Fly-In.

If you have suggestions for missions or for aircraft modules, please make those in the replay to the Mudspike 4th Annual DCS Fall Fly-In Suggestions thread.  We will use this information to, at a minimum, customize some of the sandbox missions to allow for adequate game-play with those modules and try to allow for the execution of some coordinated missions within that framework. We would hate to see someone want to fly the DCS AJS37 Viggen or any other module and find that there are not enough available. Most of the action will occur over Georgia, in order to make sure that we are open to as broad an audience as possible, but a some servers may allow missions on other DCS World Maps (Nevada, Normandy and the Persian Gulf).

As is our usual method of operation, virtual pilots of all experience levels are welcome!

If you have been putting off playing in a multiplayer environment then this is a perfect opportunity to give it a try. Even if it is only to log in and be part of a group, many of us are more than willing to help out, offer advice or work in some training time over the course of the event. None of us are experts on all of the modules in DCS World but many of us are willing to learn and share what we might know. (BeachAV8R edit – I might be there to show you what NOT to do as I demonstrate walking around after ejecting..) We do have a few real world pilots (civilian and military) and they are often willing to share their knowledge as long as it does not cross some conflict-of-interest or classified lines. It is quite a thing to work through (or even to listen in to) a cooperative combat environment with an Air Force officer in charge or to talk aviation with a skilled, learned commercial aviation pilot.

Remember: the goal of the Fly-In is to offer a relaxed and friendly atmosphere. Don’t feel intimidated by the regulars, they are gentle as baby bear cubs and we have all smashed our virtual aircraft into the potato locker of the local virtual navy carrier. It is okay to fail and we embrace the learning opportunity.

If you would like to put up a server and host a mission, please post a response in the Mudspike 4th Annual DCS Fall Fly-In Suggestions thread and mention @staff in the text or send the @staff a private message in the forums and we will work out the details.

As mentioned before, we have a Teamspeak 3 server and voice communications are strongly recommended. We all hate how we sound but luckily, we don’t have to listen to ourselves. We have a policy of having an open and friendly voice communication space. Connection information can be found here.

Rules of the Road

In order to ensure fun play for everyone, there are some ground rules and/or guidelines listed below. In general, if a player is disrupting everyone else’s good time, they will be kicked and/or banned. *We have never had to kick or ban anyone at Mudspike, and we’d really like to keep that trend going.*

  • Shoot to Kill, Play to Have Fun. It’s not just a motto, it’s…ok, well, actually it is just a motto, but it’s a pretty good one. Play hard, but play nice and be fair;
  • No team-killing. Most (if not all) missions can be assumed to be CO-OP focused or CO-OP friendly with no adversary client positions unless specified in the title/briefing. If you feel the need to go fangs out, coordinate with players ahead of time and set up a PvP mission but at the very least, you are required to have the permission of everyone involved and to move off to an unoccupied area of the map;
  • No killing of the Tanker. We all know that Air-to-Air tanking is a pain but please don’t take that out on the tanker, even if it is ‘an accident’ or ‘they made fun of your mother’;
  • No obscene language, TS3 or text. Not all folks enjoy obscene language, even if meant in good humor. Other folks may have friends/family reading the chat messages over their shoulder or listening in on external speakers and may hear what you intended as a closed room comment;
  • PLEASE use push-to-talk. Mouth-breathers and keyboard clacking can be very distracting for others (Fridge edit – I am one of those. I tend to mutter a lot when I think no one is listening);
  • Read the chat bar. Respect those who might not be on TS3. Remember to send text messages for important comms in addition to broadcasting over TS3 as not everyone may not be on TS3 or in the same channel. Be sure to know which key is used to access chat for the DCS modules you will be flying;
  • Runway/Carrier Operations. The standard rules used in previous fly-ins:
  1. There is an active runway in use as decided by the in-game ATC (who will at least make some effort to send you in the right direction). If there is doubt (or ATC is being quiet because someone else is taxiing), feel free to follow them to the active runway;
  2. Make an effort to announce on Teamspeak, or in chat, when you are about to take the runway or are on final and then announce when you are clear (landed and off the runway or are wheels up). Clear the runway/deck as fast as possible and then announce it (ie: “Skippy5 is clear of the active runway!”);
  3. With a carrier spot, initially select a spectators position and make sure that you are not spawning in on top of anyone (the deck is ‘clear’) and check in on Teakspeak/chat. When you do spawn in, if you are not taking off with the initial load of weapons/fuel, fold your wings and immediately taxi to a position that does not occupy the launch/landing portions of the deck (there are such spaces beside or behind the superstructure/tower);
  4. Catapults on the *bow* of the ship are to be considered *active* while ones on the waist are only to be used if there is no-one in the pattern. If you look around and see any dots in the sky around the carrier, assume that they are in the pattern and move to the *bow* catapults;
  5. Access to the active runway is by priority order (pilots at the top of the following list have the highest priority – if there is anyone at the airfield or carrier if they are performing an action above you in the list, they have priority):
    * Emergency (damage or low fuel);
    * Landing;
    * Taking off:
    * Taxiing to/from parking;


Notable Replies

  1. There is a good chance that we may be giving away a mysterious DCS Module Key as donated by members of this outstanding community.

    Ooooh! Prizes! :gift::gift::gift::dizzy:

  2. Franze says:

    I’m willing to partake but since I’m deaf, any voice comms on my part would be transmit only, so not sure if that’d be welcome.

  3. You should definitely participate! We can use some text messaging too. I’m sure I’ll have plenty of time to type as I walk around after detaching from my parachute… :thinking:

  4. The more the merrier. I’d love to take part, but am subject to the contingencies of family life. What zulu time would we be kickin’ it off?

  5. I’d love so much to participate this year… oh my oh my…
    Can you guys assure me I’m not bothersome?

  6. Aginor says:

    I’ll try and be there, at least for a few hours. :slight_smile:

  7. I got early shifts so I definitely can make a evening flight!

  8. Stop bothering us about being bothersome. It’s a bother.


  9. Kinger says:

    Drat. Would have loved to participate as missile fodder for others, but I’m out of town that weekend to watch the Bengals/Broncos game. (Pains me to say that as a Browns fan…)

  10. I’ll be in Denver for six weeks. Missing another Fly-In. Darn! :sob:

  11. Unfortunately, I will be in recurrent training over that weekend. Hope you all have a blast though and I am looking forward to the AARs.

  12. SWEET! Count me in for this, and I’ll have to see if I can get warmed up again in the FC3 birds and the Mirage.

  13. Fridge says:

    I am sure you would be fine! I mean everyone I tend to fly with puts up with my stream of questions, so I can’t imagine them not having patience for another :slight_smile:

  14. LOL…reminds me of the quote from Winnie the Pooh,

    “Oh bother!”, said Pooh, as he chambered another round.


  16. Amuhrican pooh is quite different from European pooh lol.

  17. He never was quite the same after he got back from Nam. They say calling in that napalm strike on the Hundred Acre Rubber Plantation changed him.

  18. Pretty sure the only issue I had during @Gunnyhighway 's ship to shore mission is that I nearly crashed a few times as I laughed at your commentary.

    Hey speaking of we could totally retool that mission for one of the fly in events.

  19. I really don’t think I am ready for multiplayer dcs. I’d love to participate but may sit this one out till next year. Is there a way to spectate? Maybe someone could stream it?

  20. Aginor says:

    Failing in MP is half of the fun! We all do it. :slight_smile:

  21. Franze says:

    There’s really nothing to worry about; if you can play DCS in single, you can play in multi.

  22. So when I read this what comes to mind is that you don’t have a good idea of what a Mudspike fly in is. So here is a primer:

    What a Mudspike fly in is NOT: An ultra organized mission setting with plans, packages, and complexity.
    What a Mudspike fly in is NOT: A stressful setting with virtual pilots judging your skill and knowledge.
    What a Mudspike fly in is NOT: A test of your abilities.
    What a Mudspike fly in is NOT: An event designed to make you feel foolish.

    What a Mudspike fly in is: A low key relaxed session where members and guests join and fly around together.
    What a Mudspike fly in is: A chance for the members you have gotten to know via posting to fly and discuss the hobby they enjoy.
    What a Mudspike fly in is: What essentially becomes a free-for-all that is enjoyable due to the sheer number of participants from this site right here.
    What a Mudspike fly in is: A judgement free environment.
    What a Mudspike fly in is: An event in which the best course of action is always to fly what makes you happy they way you want to fly it. Chances are good that someone will form up and fly that way with you.

    Here are the minimum requirements to participate:
    A PC with DCS installed.
    An interest in meeting other flight sim enthusiasts.

    Here are some things that will make the experience better:
    Some manner of controlling one of the planes beyond the keyboard and mouse.
    A microphone

    If you are not sure you are ready for multiplayer then the Mudspike fly in is the best way to start.

  23. ftfy

  24. Eugeeeeene!

  25. So, based on the above, when I crash my Viggen, as I will inevitably do, there will be no taunts from @Troll…just kidding…I think we all agree that would be too much. :grin:

  26. Troll says:

    No taunts. I promise!
    But for every Viggen you crash, I will destroy two Hornet…

  27. I think that the only plane I’m halfway competent in is the free su25t. And I’m fairly handy with the tf-51d as well. Maybe I could be a spotter or a cameraman lol.

    The a10c just makes me feel stupid everytime I fly It lol.

    My favourite thing to do at the moment is pick a decent airport and plan a display routine to watch back later. I take immense pleasure from this for some reason.

    This doesn’t bode well for combat operations…

    God help me when the tomcat is released.

  28. Vic man, do yerself a favour and get you a gunfighter such as the MiG-15 or the F-5E.

  29. I really REALLY want the f5. But I made a judgement call and bought x plane 11 instead of a dcs module. I’m actually really enjoying x plane. But it’s not scratching the itch for destruction…

    I’m holding on for the tomcat I really feel like that is the module I’m gonna sink m teeth into deepest as I love the damn things so much… But I don’t know if I can hold out till then… I keep looking at flaming cliffs 3 but haven’t pulled the trigger because of the tomcat… (we have another baby joining us in February so wifey is playing hardball with the finances lol)

  30. And damn well she should. Hold off on FC3 until it sheds its skin and becomes MAC. It’ll include the MiG-15 and F-5E too by the way, but without interactive cockpits. When the baby (and MAC) arrive, ask her to compare 40 quid spent for planes to 40 quid spent in the pub and ask her what is better value in her eyes. She might buy you the plane pack :wink:

  31. Oooh didn’t realise that! I think that will be just the thing I’m looking for. I’m not too bothered with clickable cockpits to be honest unless it’s the tomcat… I can’t wait to play with the switches on that.

    But I do need a dogfighter. I enjoy nailing ground targets with the frogfoot but my heart is really air to air…

  32. One of the charms (to me) for clickable pits is the startup procedure. In the MiG its very easy, but (to me) very zen-like fun; you flip all of the switches on the right cockpit wall (about 20 or so) after getting the ground crew to hook 'er up. Various things whirr softly and spool up as you do so. Then you flip six more on the other side and gently crank the engine. It’s not hard or terribly complicated, but every time it gets me grinning a big grin when the beastie comes to life and leaps into the sky ready to tear some bishes a new one with those three whopping big guns.

  33. That’s the same for me dude. I really enjoy the procedures and feel of the startup in the a10c. Its incredible. Even the tf-51d gives me a warm feeling when it stutters and sparks into life. The thought of trying to follow mission objectives with live people giving instructions in the a10c makes me feel clammy and unwell lol.

    Again the tomcat is something I could really get my teeth into as I WANT to learn it. But the MAC or fc3 f15 or f5e sound exactly the right sort of thing for me to use for a fun bit of aerial demolition… Plus it would be nice to understand Betty when she’s yelling sink rate or pull up in English instead of unintelligible Russian

  34. You don’t own the hornet yet, do you? That would scratch all of your itches.

  35. Ah man, you ain’t lying. The moan the engines make as they start cranking… Now we just need all the ambient background noises and 5MC announcements when on deck, and it’d be almost perfect.

  36. Agreed. If I had to own only one DCS aircraft, it would be the Hornet. The cockpit and flight dynamics just feel so comfortable and natural. Like pulling on your favorite pair of jeans, denim shirt, and boots. Superb detail, which gets better with every release. Carrier ops, widest of all aircraft mission capabilities, no nasty habits, looks fantastic, forgiving, deadly in the right hands. Gets the stamp of approval from current and former Hornet crews. Still under development, but the slow trickle of technology has softened the learning curve.

  37. Franze says:

    Dogfighter? You want Bug, Fulcrum, or Eagle then. No offense to the heavies like the Kitty or Flanker, but you can’t really throw them around quite the same as the Bug.

  38. Hopping into the “Way Back Machine”…

    USS GUAM was at sea doing flight ops when a friend of mine, one of the ships company Air Dept JOs in the tower (not the Air Boss) sees a young Fireman (the overall type of sailor, not the rate), obviously from Engineering (its in the Summer in the Med and he is pasty white) standing in the port side catwalk, kind of just looking at the flight deck activity.

    My friend picks up the 5MC microphone and quietly whispers “Hey buddy”

    The kid happens to be standing near a 5MC speaker. He looks around. My friend say, “Yeah, you in the white T-shirt” (The sailor has doffed his chambray working uniform shirt - its hot in the main spaces)

    The kid walks over to the speaker. My friend says, “Just a little bit closer”

    The sailor leans in with an ear near the speaker.

    My friend yells, “GET OFF THE FLIGHT DECK!!!”

    The poor Fireman practically left out of his skin and then disappeared from the catwalk with amazing rapidity.

    My friend told the story that night while we were at dinner…bug juice just about came out my nose. :laughing:

  39. We’ll be flying release version yeah? Downgrading to that now…

    What time (Zulu) will we (or most of us) be flying? I live in zulu+1 and have parental duties during the day.

  40. Fridge says:

    Stick with the Open Beta.

  41. Lol ok, re-upgrading it again.

  42. Franze says:

    Just a heads up for some folks, the mission can take a few minutes to load; it’s not DCS crashing, just needs time due to the quantity of units.

  43. Shockingly enough it’s actually all the briefing images.

  44. Franze says:
  45. Did we stabilize on the latest open beta build?


  46. Franze says:

    Fridge’s server seems to be from when I joined it earlier.

  47. Fridge says:

    I am stuck at work for a few more hours. Let me know if there is an issue with the server and i can restart it remotely. @near_blind, i can also start up your mission if you want.

  48. Don’t worry about it. I went out and picked up an cheapo 10 series card for my server so I could get some sweet sweet driver updates. It seems to be working much better than last night, so I’ll keep it up as an alternate.

  49. Fridge says:

    I had a quick look at the log and the server wasn’t happy being paused for so long. The first person to join the mission ended up having to wait for all the Moose initialization stuff I have in there to complete (not that long in and of itself) but there were a ton of DX Error messages that were unexpected. I will take a look tomorrow but it may be necessary for me to join the server and then leave it to auto-pause as the Moose stuff will get done first. Odd though.

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